These highly integrated PCs from HP promise great things and look fascinating however both the price and delivery date are unknown. By contrast we know the price of the three versions of Framework Desktop and we know that delivery will take many months, which leaves us in a bit of a quandary. The obvious move was to buy something completely different that is actually available, and that is how Leo came to take delivery of a Minisforum BD795i SE ITX motherboard along with 64GB of DDR5 SODMIMM memory. The integrated graphics are fairly dire so thank goodness for the PCIe graphics slot!